Hilton's $15 million lawsuit said, "there have been 54 reported uncommanded discharges of the P320," meaning the gun went off by itself, over the last five years in 22 states and Washington, D.C. Sig Sauer did not respond to ABC News' request for comment. He wasnt aware of it until contacted earlier this week by CBC News and suggested it was relevant in ongoing litigation in the U.S. We look forward to reviewing the incident in discovery in the United States, he said Friday. But I hope Sig fights it until the bitterest of ends. . My buddy took 1st place in the Delmarva championship with the X5 in CO. The thing is, youd probably need to generate many Gs of force in both directions simultaneously. Powered by Invision Community. Glock is being sued too, because once loaded and a round is chambered, it also has a much lighter trigger than a DA/SA. I dont own a Glock or a SIG and am not a fanboy of either. The Military versions of the P320 are designated the M17 and the M18. Took the wife out to SC yesterday after changing out to the 1911 guide rod with a 12lb spring. Interestingly the barrel looks different. Got a 40 SW P320 SC on my hip now, got one in 9mm within reach, so far neither has decided to trip the sear without my help. I know there are those who will vehemently disagree with me, and even disparage me but I have been following this issue from early on, BUT I recall CLEARLY that there have been dozens and dozens of discharges that could not be attributed to operator error and people experiencing these uncommanded discharges both before AND after getting the trigger upgrade. Press J to jump to the feed. NO, SIG has a problem that they would rather fight in court. In the most recent legal action, Deputy Vadnais is seeking $10 million in damages and to have SIG Sauer recall the pistol. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If you did the same with a Glock or an M&P without the thumb safeties, youd get the same result. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. That is totally unacceptable. Even if it was an issue with the sear interface, there is still a firing pin safety that will not move unless the trigger is held firmly to the rear. Ron, The design was incorporated from Bruce Grays trigger kit around the time of the original drop safety fix. and it did not have issues without the extractor. I'll keep you all posted. Bagnell is representing a number of the police officers who have filed suits against SIG for un-commanded discharges, but wouldnt disclose the exact number. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). https://apis.mail.yahoo.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-iN4Wr8P_P2lGU6m2M5Rd8F6tVxyeeWdzleA_0eUoKjB0wER5wbVU_ouLj3uKCvLmUWhjIv2uHVC2R0Wv8Q9VgQ/messages/@.id==AMxkWSMoHX4bYSzMKA0AINojDH4/content/parts/@.id==2/refresh?appid=YMailNorrinLaunch&ymreqid=ae6c4f7d-acdd-ffa3-1c80-d70000011c00. I would trust the intelligence of a Gorilla in a zoo before any one in the Far Right. Then shoot. Canadian soldier wounded by accidental discharge used wrong holster: SIG Sauer Unless they have to fire their weapon in an on-duty incident most officers only fire their weapons just before and/or at qualifications, which depending on the department are annual or semi-annual. All chasing that pot of gold at the end of litigation.. Not that big of a stretch when considering the lawyers beating the bushs for clients to add to the lawsuits, and the fact many of them will lose their jobs if its proven to NOT be the gun, but instead negligence on their part. Ive seen similar situations at our Municipal range. If you want to find the lowest form of life on the planet interview any C.E.O. Both versions of the ABC report included comments from Officer Hiltons attorney, Jeffrey Bagnell, who said, Its not credible to claim that people with this amount of training, this amount of skill are all shooting themselves. The gun has been running flawlessly with mixed brass with 165gn plated, 158gn 38/.357, and 147 factory since. Extractor's gone somewhere. The drop-bang thing only happened at a very narrow event window, it was only once the Internet doom-preachers figured out that narrow window and did it over and over online did it appear to be a thing. Sig adapted and changed the pistol sufficiently to prevent even that issue. A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. When I got it back it was ammo fussy for about 600 rounds. Cops are crap with guns, unlike me, a REAL pistolero! Your support makes this news available to everyone. Thanks. Possible causes of that: Bagnell told TTAG that he believes the problem with the striker-fired P320 is an inadequate sear/striker connection (he has images he says illustrate this on his website). False 40. They had it for 5 WEEKS! Hello perpetrators, Lee Paige is clearly the gift that keeps on giving though our buddy Hunter Biden is a close second! They cant even make claim to doing a twice a year qual. Slowly people are realizing they arent the only ones having issues. ), and the gun fell out of his pocket. How many times did Shatner actually watch it? For instance theres Lieutenant Thomas Ahern who was was performing a routine function (test) of his P320 when it fired at him without any force towards the trigger, resulting in the bullet impacting his left thigh.. My dad owned one and that is exactly what happened one time when he was using it. Too much MIM in that crap SIG, the old ones were great. Attorney Bagnell held up the law enforcement officers he represents as examples of people who are highly trained in carrying and using firearms. Police officers (maybe) do an annual qualification and thats it. Yaaay! She has the p320 9fs that has been RMR with a delta point. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. (Strange) Anyway I took it to the range last night for a test run. But the reality is that the military has been using the Sig P320 for almost 5 years and they show no signs of changing. Maybe they could help you out with shipping it back without the long drive. At rest, cocked, it may very well have enough oomph to set some primers off. Sig made a subtle change to the length of the extractor spring, and the geometry of the extractor claw. is the manual safety a kit you add? Good thing you werent serious, thatd be terr..uh.oops. This is why we now have back up safeties on garden tractors and riding lawn mowers. Carrying a handgun in a purse, particularly one that isnt designed specifically to carry a firearm, is problematic at best. I'm giving that a try. Either one could have been a gun or a Barbie. PDs are dropping them from contracts. There is definitely less support for the case on that 320 barrel compared to that 938. You cannot paste images directly. That a pistol will be carried in a way it shouldnt (say, in a gym bag or a purse). Sent the old kit (as a complete pistol) off to Sig for warranty repair. I still love my Sig so I really hope everything works out. It has not yet responded to the latest legal filing, and didnt respond to a request for comment. That's good without those, you'll never get any substantial number of views / subs on youtube. First, clearing a loaded firearm with a finger over the muzzle doesnt exhibit even cursory adherence to the Four Rules. The SIG will be the shortest military contract for guns in history. Sigs bid was low because they were still pissed after being beat by Beretta in cost. The tendency is for people to say "I've shot thousands of this load, and nothing has ever happened before." to docile, too subtle, to contextual. People of the Gun are probably familiar with the early problems the P320 had regarding drop safety. We will respect the ongoing investigation and will not offer further comment at this time, Bineau said. But that's just me. I guess none got her the attention she wanted and a national coverage so she went in for the bang. The standard P320 Compact magazine holds 15 rounds, but you can use higher-capacity magazines as well. Seems a bit apologetic to me. SHORTBUS- As stated, used all of the other calibers and kits with both FCUs. Fundamentally, the bits that the ambulance chaser claims are flawed function exactly the same way as a S&W M&P. Theyre cheering for a noose around their own precious Glocks throat. It was not a double charge, but it did blow out the extractor. Its difficult to believe thats a coincidence. ALL OF THEM. I dont know nothing about Sigs, I do know any gunm that goes off when I lay it on a table gets sold with a warning and I never touch that brand or model again. Fiocchi worked flawlessly, on the blazer had fte every fifth round or so. So what's left? Sig fanboys are almost as bad as Glock fanboys. Upload or insert images from URL. I just separate Shatner the man from Kirk the character, which he plays with Shakespearian operatic perfection. Note that Harrisons comment about these claims possibly being the result of legal momentum were edited out of the longer Nightline version of the report. In the suit, the deputy suggested that the company issue an "enhanced, unambiguous warning to . All with VV310. Had it for 1 hour and had to send it back to Sig! Sig p320 Max potential extractor issues I found a good deal on a p320 max and was hoping to pick it up, but while doing my due diligence, I came across quite a few posts with people having bent extractor issues. 3. But Im observant enough to see the same voices that said in 1985 that This new fangled Glock is a just a plastic toy! Its also interesting that theres apparently no corresponding flood of civilian lawsuits against SIG with similar claims of guns going off, even though the public owns far more P320s than do law enforcement agencies. Your link has been automatically embedded. OK, in answer to all of the above questions. P320C .45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsu6WsSQ2_g. By Anyway around here they do. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. Im reading about a moron who wraps a loaded firearm in a cloth and stuff it in a gym bag, and other dumb behavior that tells me the weapon isnt the problem but the user. The networks report didnt mention lawsuits filed by LEOs (or anyone else) against other gun makers claiming similar alleged design defects. I'm relatively convinced that it's fixed. It has an unsafe takedown procedure that requires you to pull the trigger to get the slide off. Sound familiar? The trigger bar has to push up on it, for it to release. After some research, it appears the P320 Compact 9mm (and only the P320 Compact 9mm) has a known problem w/all weights of Blazer Brass. I purchased a Sig P320C 9mm in November 16, i finally got to shoot it in Dec and now February. That was me. https://millsentertainment.smugmug.com/William-Shatner-The-Wrath-of-Khan Now it runs anything and no further problems. Completely cleaned and lubed? And they think hey have an actual legit lawsuit on their hands? As the round is stripped from the magazine it is pushed up the feed ramp and into the partially extracted round still hanging out the back of the barrel. Like others said I never had a problem before this. Pity that some of the most common reactions fall into two over simplistic categories: 1. Same problems. My email address is in my Member Profile. If the latter were to occur, the drop safety would prevent discharge because it would not be pushed up by anything. Sigs suck and my Glock is awesome!. Being highly trained doesnt eliminate stupidity. Its also beyond debate that current production Sig quality is drastically inferior to what it once was, particularly the German made pieces. If this were a car, a phone, a refrigerator, it would have been recalled long ago. I have almost a hatred for Glocks but the one thing that they are is reliable. They have similar vertical sear engagement, but the M&P has more engagement width wise. They then proceeded to repeatedly drop each one onto concrete at that precise -30 problem angle from four feet. Well I jumped in bed with ma and pa , told them that the devil was in Arkansas. That prompted Sig Sauer to issue what it called a voluntary upgrade of the weapon, which included hardware changes to the trigger and striker. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. After watching a friend get killed by a Remington 700 by another friend and the ensuing fallout 31 years ago I decided that I didnt care if the P320 was fixed, it was getting sold. Later when he was driving he shifted his weight and this caused the trigger to be pushed back further and it went off and shot him and the bullet then also blew a big hole in the floor board of this truck. Sorry for the long post but I just needed to vent my tale of woe. . Your previous content has been restored. Steel casing ammo much better off in polymer mags. 3. Yes (7) Inspected the extractor? No, it doesnt. Read the entire article to find out! Tried different mags? He also said it only took like 10 days to get the gun back. never got into the P320 It is to me a Range gun not a carry gun. Zimmerman said he is confident his plaintiffs will prevail in the lawsuit filed this week. Interestingly the barrel looks different. who sells them? The Glocks lack of a manual safety has caused untold thousands of needless cripplings and death. "The P320 meets and exceeds all U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), as. Bagnell also represented Virginia Sheriffs Deputy Marcie Vadnais who sued SIG when she said her P320 went off on its own when she was removing the weapon from her belt. Vadnais was featured in the Nightline version of ABCs report. OR some gorilla with more brawn than brains ignored the 40lb trigger pull they suddenly had to break the tab. Thats why the US Marines have Sigs. Theres just too much other paraphernalia bouncing around in there. Possibly. The pistol is popular with commercial gun owners and law enforcement south of the border. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. The current allegations, then, are different, claiming that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. While it seems that I have a preference for battle ships, The Romulans had Warbirds. Ive putabout 2000 rounds through it no issue, but the other day I was at the range and had a case separation. The weapons are currently on the shelf and the soldiers have returned to using their older model SIG P226s. The Sig Sauer P320 Extractor is a Factory OEM Sig Sauer part. I could care but that came at the expense of reliability and safety. The gun ran fine with brass, but as soon as I loaded her up with Tulammo, it began to choke bad again. This is the first time I have heard of the same happening with the subcompact. I wish nothing bad on anyone carrying regardless of brand. I have fired many different brands of ammo.. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Maybe. In the former case, you would need upward movement coming to a sudden stop to bump up the drop safety at the same time you imparted rearward momentum to the gun to try and move the striker. . No problems since. Circumstances that explained those un-commanded discharges.. USA. Member. Jan 2019. Greatly decreases optic related issues Retains Optic. Maybe you got one by the same people. Hes talking about trial lawyers recruiting clients whove experienced negligent discharges with P320s and suing the gun manufacturer. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Feel free to contact me if you have any problems. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dea-agent-lee-paige-still-wont-go-away/. Thats why NY demanded the NY Trigger be installed on Glocks before theyd buy them. People who had problems have been replacing them with Lightning Strike SS ones. Ill go so far as to say the first batch of Sig P320s did nothing wrong. The Moron engineer who decided to put that on the Glock should have been hung by his dirty balls. Brought mine March of 15 as well. The first thing to note about the P320 XTen is that it is, in fact, a P320. Once word of that got out there was an avalanche of sexual harassment lawsuits against Fox news. As a CPO gun, you have a 1year warranty from Sig. You would think that extractor steel would be hardened and heat treated well enough to withstand steel case ammunition, if in fact it was damaged by my use of that ammo. For the moron Neanderthals of the Far Right who will scream its the operators fault and we do not give a shit about marketing more safer designed weapons, if such idiotic polices were followed for other consumer goods today we would not have safety glass, anti-lock breaks, back up safeties, child proof medicine caps and chemical bottles, back up cameras, kick back muzzles on chain saws and the list goes on and on. congrats. You clanging a bell that went silent years ago. In that case lighten the recoil spring or bumping up the power should make a difference. If yours doesn't look like that in some way, you probably have a problem that is going to need to involve Sig CS. Plastic crap! No Warp core, just a quantum singularity, The engine was basically a dorm fridge. Fired case is extracted about a quarter of an inch. At least the Lion roars when he is hungry, the C.E.O smiles at you and when you turn your back he puts a knife right into it. Because of this a case that is weakened has the room to fail whereas the same case in a supported chamber most likely would have survived. Feed ramp was polished from use when it went out but looked freshly blued when it came back. I have no idea. The X5 I borrowed will release out of battery, if you were into the lands and released out of battery that'd be a pretty big problem. Fine. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. Bagnell said he thinks the discharges are due to both design and manufacturing flaws on SIGs part. They've also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. Right. It was ejecting shell casings all over the place. First I have no problem with the Mk 25 or any other Sig thats metal. So, I have a new p320 build.-New Sig Frame-New Norsso Slide-New PMM Barrel-New Sig Recoil Spring Assembly-Re-using firing pin, trigger group, extractor/spring out of my well-used P320 X-Five . a. You can post now and register later. I'm not sure how long it is really going to take. Once springs loosened up a bit, fill it to the rim. It alleges that Walter Collette, Jr., a police officer with the Somerville (Mass.) There are tens of millions of gun owners, far more than there are cops, and the VAST majority of those folks buy their guns and drop them a nightstand drawer or up on a closet shelf and leave it until theyre needed. Paste as plain text instead, Who knows. I lost $150 dumping that gun and Sig instead of acknowledging that it had a problem and calling it a recall, denied all and everything and called it a voluntary upgrade., At my LGS a P320 just went off when one of the guys put it the counter when he set up a target. Add to Cart. Anyway there was one good thing to come from those movies, The USS Vengeance. Customer Service can be reached at (603)610-3000 Option 1, from Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. EST. Companies stay silent I don't shoot it often but yesterday had fte problems intermittently. Service your Sig P320 pistol with quality OEM and aftermarket parts/components to ensure a solid performance . The service includes the following. To make the striker leg pull off of the sear, you would have to impart a lot of rearward momentum and stop it suddenly. Not just police in US had issues with sig p320. After all, there are limits on complying with Rule 2 and even Rule 3, because a gun muzzle is ALWAYS covering something, somewhere, and ALWAYS knowing what lies beyondperhaps FAR beyonda possible target is an impossibility. That wont last for long, the P320 (M17 AND M18) are already failing in the field. The wife sold her 2011 to buy this gun as she is also waiting for aftermarket parts from Grays. The second version emphasized the upgrade to fix the drop safety issue and notes that Harrison believes that problem has been fixed. Glocks have gone off when people attempted to holster them and after they have holstered them, some times way later after holstering them like the fellow that got into his pickup truck. Quite frankly, a sizable number of the LEOs that go there, would benefit from a Gun Safety 101 class. in Capitalvania. And many departments across the country have had to lower their standards for passing qualifications just to be able to hire on and keep officers. The main difference is that the M&P never had the problem the p320 did with trigger mass. I can say we are aware of the statement released by SIG SAUER, said Maj. Amber Bineau. The cost of settlements will be passed on to us. So I give a ton of credit to Shatner for reading the reality of what it was and in essence, saving it. If they recruit smart cops, they wont have cops who will act against their political opponents outside of the constitution. He takes your wallet and car and leaves the SIG. Features & Specifications of SIG P320 X5 Legion: SIG P320 X5 Legion Each incident gives them more blood for their macabre dance, and another tic-mark for their context-free gun violence tally. Ron Cohen ruined Kimber and now hes doing the same to SIG. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. This is the goal of those who would disarm us at the Post Office, as we take little Yevgeniy or little Shaquina to school, as we fulfill our civic responsibilities as jurors to judge our peers, as we travel to and through less free jurisdictions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, Simply put, the P320 is not safe and the lawsuits arent frivolous. Hey, Im glad theres somethings we agree on! To put it simply, they are expensive cheaply made junk. Looks like that was one of the two Sigs that lost their extractor from blow outs at Sunday's match. She claims that her holstered P320 pistol went off while she was carrying it in her purse. An x-ray (fluoroscope) of the mechanism in operation could show what, if anything, is happening inside the gun that might prove, or disprove, the contention that the gun is flawed. I bought a P320 and went through the voluntary upgrade. Wow new finger grooves, crazy innovation. Trying to gauge how widespread the problem is. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Not much detail is provided in any of those other claimed incidents, but a few stand out. I went to an outdoor public range with a local SWAT entry team leader. Its pathetic how often these legal stunts work. But this 9F will fail to extract a fired case about every 3rd or 4th mag. If the military was going to go cheap then they should have thrown Taurus into the mix. It has worked flawlessly. Then after just three years without telling anyone they stopped all production including extra parts. You should always use a real holster, or carry it condition 3 or 4 if its off-body. Sent the gun to SIG, got it back with a different extractor spring and plunger, plus new extractor. 2. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. Slide has cycled all of the way back and attempts to strip the next round from the magazine. It somehow moved to the hinges of the desk. I don't think this has a bearing in this case because I tried Federal factory premium loads and Winchester factory loads as well as my hand loads. I call b-s on all these my gun magically went off. That said, I own multiple P320s, but all of them have the manual safety due to personal preference. Remember also that with a handful of notable exceptions, modern firearms do not just go off, no matter what is later claimed by those who may be held responsible. They admitted their problem and fixed it. The most common problems with the SIG P320 AXG Scorpion are FTF issues, ejection and extractor problems, slide rattle issues and RSA issues. That show with no Shatner-Kirk and only a Nimoy-Spock wouldnt have gotten past the first season. Police officers do NOT get a lot of training unless theyre doing it on their own time at their own expense. But I can't count the number of guys using n320 and 147s for minimal pf loads. Almost like they used a revolver forcing cone cutter to give it a elongated mouth to enhance feeding. Any Armorer . Keep the phrase legal momentum in mind. Took it home, cleaned it, and went straight back to the range. The P320s and P365s were junk, plain and simple. When he opened the drawer the hinges pulled the Charters trigger. Where is this lightning striking twice? Theres still the P938 extractors snapping they refuse to acknowledge. 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