Anyone in sales, is usually captive. How Much Does A $1m Life Insurance Policy? Primerica was labeled as a company with high mortgage interest rates and crooked mortgages from unlincensed individuals who bought and sold ARMs and Interest only mortgages. Matter of fact I train sales people. (ii) If any amounts have been paid on your behalf to a state insurance department, other state agency or testing service, those amounts will be deducted from any amount otherwise refundable; and This gets around the Do NOT Call list, and the fact that you will be bugged until you leave them or cave. Would it surprise you those other analysises have nothing on debt. Our focus is to help families get into a better financial situation than they are currently. IF a Lie gets told 1000 times it becomes a truth. Being Less does not make it equal. As for being cheaper it has to be since it lacks value. You agree that this restriction is a fair and reasonable way to help protect Primerica Lifes customer base against unfair competition. Do you really think that companies create financial products without a real If you do not have money to invest, you can use ROP policy. What about that car you traded in for the new one, do you still list it on your insurance, and pay more? . Do you have a mental problem? Hello everyone! and take a 25% commission for yourself which is very low. And it is not a loan, like most of the TI options are. I know that my friends saw the post and did not know it was me, they said that you were an idiot, placing your name and license. . It is also depends on the race too. Wrong. Does it have guaranteed insurability? It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. Price sellers are constantly lowering their price, or giving things away. I also couldnt hire P&C agents, mortgage lenders, accountants, bank tellers, or real estate professionals. Remember what your parents said, you are who your friends that you keep nIt is is even better with the companies you chose to keep when you are an independent. Ask your PFS agent if Art williams or Sandy Weill only had term policies. If you start late, you need to take more risk. Let us see how many Primerica Loans are called into question, vs. all these companies that did ARM and Interest only loans, and left their clients hanging. One has to do with the scope of underwriting. You pay $99 to get licensed. Yes it is business..Yet what is the great benefit of being with PFS if you can do the same things you are currently doing outside of PFS and more and have immediate ownership, Advance from personal production if you so choose, Not have a requirment to give up any legs, Not have any restrictions on who you can hire for your team, Not have any full-time or office requirements and possible higher commission levels. They can offer the same and more products and then if they so choose sign on with Prepaid Legal directly and build up a client base with and get paid an initial commission and possible residual income that can pay them for years. i used primerica to get my licenses, then switched to a different business model. 5. I wish everyone in Primerica well. Now you may have only been there a little while, and never saw anyone that has gotten in trouble but I have seen several agents get reprimands for playing a battle of words. But this is typical of someone losing the battle. ______________-. Most people do not want to pay 15 times more for the same insurance. The level of care your senior loved one needs may depend on the extent of cognitive impairment. If you sell bad term policies you are right the term policies will go up increase, as you get older, unless you have a guaranteed term. You follow someone else, or copies it, and this allows you not to make the same mistakes they did. You dont sell term vs cash-value on features, it is purely a price sale. Depends on the policy. turns out it was all bogus, probably some information dropped to the proper athorities by a local competitor. You also said, same reason why I hire salespeople that have sold to different companies. Well If bill is your name, Hello, but since I am not Tom I am not sure if you are talking to the person posting here or some other imaginary friend you might have. Find them and post them. Never talks about PRODUCTS or the actualy mechanics of the business opportunity. Hopefully you dont go based of this review. Sometimes people later in life develope health issues or life has just thrown them a curve.. **Melody please read some of the previous post. Ask your self, why are my clients so focused on price? If you look at 9/11. I guess not you are just parroting what you learn from your trainer. I am just defending a company that choses not to fight here. There is a law about twisting, look it up in your state, I know you have access to the web. . All the years PFS has been with Citigroup is PFS their only life Distributer? And then you find out it is only a sales pitch. I am surprise you can say this. Well First, I have never said I was an agent. I am thinking of sending it with my 2nd Grade grand child so they can proof read your work. I fought the fight on message boards as you are doing. Life Investors However, usually if I ask if they read their bible and if they can show me a scripture that supports their statements, I am greeted with a clueless face. The Terminal Illness Benefit is 50% or $250k max. When a company is growing your going to attract all kinds of people: including people that will be high pressure reps. Ranked #8 ReliaStar Life Insurance Company (ING)74.38 a month, Sells Cash value. Angelica, think about itfor every person you switch to your company, Primerica and others switch easily the same amount to their company. In the final month of competition for the San Francisco trip I wrote a policy that had an AP (annualized premium of over $4,000, but I only received credit for $1,500). It seems you and Michael/Thomas have the same affliction. Please tell me one publication that has said that Adding a savings plan to an insurance policy is good for the client. The upfront fee is $99 and $25 a month online access fees. There are more companies out there than just AIG and PFS. They did my family. The only people who thinks that Cash value is good, are those that sell it. So that the junior will be making money sooner. -. It wasnt until December of 2007, when I became disenfranchised with work, that I began to embrace the Primerica opportunity and as such began to attend regular meetings and trainings. Better, YES! does that make me right and you wrong? That is just one example and they way they feel is that if they dont have it then it must be demonized. Get over it if it strikes you wronglyits the internet. Switch to Mobile view . He said, he loves that PFS sells 20,000 policies per month, because theyre all prospecting for him! This risk could become quite significant if similar settlements are reached with other firms there are serious doubts that the market could absorb a flood of auction-rate securities. Im not ashamed of going after small sales. Unless you are afraid of the competition. By the way even though we are less expensive than most great service and value oriented companies. Michael you are reminding me of the Humphreys. If I showed you a solution that had you out of debt faster saved you thousands of dollars, would you want to implement this solution? Primerica: Specialized in term life insurance. What do you think the premiums will do every time you renew? As for you knowledge, I have a broken watch in my drawer. how do u, used to or who helped to sell products? Well Let us see, Company on the Rocks, Company that is being sold since it is an asset to their parent company. It is the same scam the cash value people try to say with the money in the cash value policies. Primerica is not a part of Citi bank anymore, they purchased their freedom from them and went public in 2011. The only problem is you are playing magician. This is coming from that suicide that was directly caused by the mother of the ex friend. If money is taken from the cash value thats loss of use money. My Question to you is why do have to resort to being cheapest. Since you focus on the price, you never sell value. For you, Oh my gosh, hes making money off this person and that one! type of people out there (love the internet).take a really good unbias look at how ALL FINANCIAL SERVICES companies work. Better to be quiet, and thought a fool, or to keep talking and remove all doubt. By the way if your agent told you to jump off the San Francisco Bridge would you? Insurance companies coffers. Do you think using a loophole is perfectly ok? The promotion levels of Primerica are: Representative Senior Representative District Leader Division Leader Regional Leader Regional Vice President It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. And in closing. Now if Primerica was such a bad program, why is it 6% of face value to 2% of the premiums? -. But on that 70% is that a Loan like many of the policies, or predeath dispersement? Well If he did something wrong yes, but in the last ten years I have no problems. Here is one more fact: When Primerica was A.L. Williams was a different company then Primerica) or anyone else that would like to keep their job. He does not have the power to influence anyone with his opinions with out facts. ROP is a way to pay more so if by chance you keep paying for the length of the term, you will get the premiums back. Why 40% on 6 months death window when I can do 50% or 250K (lowest of the two) on a 12 month death window? Lincoln Benefit Life They do not need this. I dont think thats in PFS best interest. 4. Insurance have specific purposes. Metlife is the one that we do write for, and so that you know they wanted the sales staff of Primerica. ***You have no idea what markets we or anyone else currently target. I am sure your clients would like to know. You can fit their needs by reviewing what is important to your clients, remember the asking the client questions, taking notes and really listening what is important to them and their families? Do some research. You just didnt have what it takes to earn that kind of money in Primerica. ; ). If I want to add prepaid legal I just sign up. Now knowing what you know about Primerica what can they offer thats better. Think it depends on what your rep is putting you into. You see not all things are for all people. I can go on, but you are no better than Bill. And the difference can be placed in a Roth IRA, which will be tax free. Professionalism cares about the spelling. They could ahve picked your business card. Why not? He already ahs said that it is $199 not $99. They bought the business with the Liability, but got a free sales force. The only factor is who gets there first. So you have no problem with offering people Drugs. So, I, along with many others in our firm are charging forward in pursuit of that position that equals true business ownership and bringing along many of those who want it bad. Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. So if you want to know the facts ask the right people. In addition, SEC registration does not carry any official imprimatur or indication PFSI has attained a particular level of skill or ability. No one ever said that Primerica was the CHEAPEST, but for the families we serve, it makes their situation much better than it was or would have been. DId you know that when an agent can be found and they post incorrect or malicious posts they can be sued? To be honest, Primerica as a whole and under the right training really does put the consumer first. They are great but I wanted to retire before I was grey, so I found a company that was not doing well. If you know that it is wrong to sell cash value in any form, including ROP, you would be disgusted. And since Primerica has stayed out of trouble unlike most companies, they are going to keep this. Or do you think everyone that goes to the gym and uses a trainer is weak and could do it all by themselves. Just hadda comment Ive had EXCELLENT results investing through Primerica. there is no requirement for anyone to do a Term to perm. I am wondering if you can get sued for the errors you place here? I am sorry. This is only your license start up. Proverbs 14:23 says In all Labor there is profit, but idle chatter(BLOG)leads only to poverty. No Office: Same thing as above. We are a company that SEARCHES for these families and pushes to help them. These include, communicating in a polite and respectful manner, asking meaningful questions, imparting factual information and abiding by norms and values. Wrong Way Feldman? It is headquartered in Johns Creek, Georgia, and operates both in the US, Puerto Rico, and Canada. That means I have more money in my annuity than your client did, which is great to me. Failure. Also if the crusade is to save peope from hig priced products why isnt it carried over to the products they offer? Did you notice most of their programs get them where they need to be in 20 years or less? IS it the same place you got your facts about Primerica and the cost to get involved? Why would you suggest anyone to go this way, unless you know of the failure rate and want to keep the competition down? Living with their families on their final years. Well Since I am in sales and have millions of dollars in liquid assets on top of the properties I own, I am good at sales. Buy Term invest the difference ONLY!!!!! It is getting to be a fulltime job to correct your mistakes. You will fail again, it is inevitable. And then you place your email address here to gather business. They know they can make 2 to 15 times more on the cash value policies. Newspapers and independent advisers. Im really sitting on the fence at this point. . I would like to ask the former PFSers who are taking part in this discussion a few questions (and for those who are involved with PFS like Dave you can certainly feel free to chime in as well): 1)Primerica claims to have been named the king of term by consumer reports (a fact that I was never able to verify). . So if someone invests $1000, youll make around $13. Its just that I have heard the arguments and decided to give it a try anyway. IMO, the combined husband/wife policies that Primerica writes are always problematic. They could not win stealing their clients, because of the non-compete clause. Primerica estimates adjusted direct premiums to grow 13% in 2021. 5.) I mean this is someones life. If it is done right, they will have money saved. Are you in sales? It was only after my upline did training presentation with me that I learned that there is Term insurance which is actually good value for money so I got Primerica insurance. By doing so, Data Independence can be achieved. Another is weekly training. How do I know? I have had friends of my family that have to borrow to bury their parents because they were sold some insurance. But then you do not list them. Yes she did. But the interest you are making on it will be. But noticing his statements here I doubt it. Any company wants you 50 to 60 hours a week, for what you say. LOL The first thing they ought to teach members is not to brag about it. and ppl quit because primerica does not fire agents and those people can not make the amount of money they want. So why must you use Life insurance as a Long term Care policy? And if you are willing to sell things that are not good for the client and a waste of money, one can only put two and two together and get 4. Since it is about opportunity, and I am salesleader in my business, I know how much it takes in pain, sweat and money to start a business. He said in a previous post hwe was going to ignore me. And can you prove it? Do you guys ever wonder why the guarantees on some products may not be a full guarantee? It is not a smart option or idea, but it is an option. If you are curious, e-mail me and I will let you know who I represent. Winflex is a tool that people who are going for the lowest price use to find the no-value term. Then considering they will be bringing along a already licensed team from what they built on the outside they can ask for a higher commission level from the recruiting RVP. Some people just dont like the point of paying for Term and not getting anything in return except coverage. Sure they have you for two years or whatever but after that isnt it your decision to stay or go? Or the house you sold last year? I mean if you did the correct thing for you client, they will not need insurance. How do you do the buy term and invest the difference? That is guarantee. We are apid commsions from our own sales. They made a choice. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. The market that Primerica serves. He did mention more than once that the money that could be made is Amazing!! The procedure for calculation and payment of these commissions and other payments will be as provided from time to time by PFSHMI in commission schedules and Operating Guidelines. Pulling it from a Insurance website is not a good source. Also read sandy weills book. Tom side by side. To be equal to Primerica you need to give the following for $99. First: the fact that many of the folks (especially the higher-ups) seemed extremely over zealous. He didnt. They require that their agents to pay for more and more. Your license for two years. Now you have said that there are companies that will refund some of the money, Please give us those companies name. I am making money on it. Furthermore, the timing of the best efforts obligation could result in the statute of limitations barring certain claims possessed by such institutional investors if they postpone action until after December 31, 2009. (This is a way to get to the client. 6.) So it protects them and the company from unscrupulous agents that hide behind initials and alias, so they can attack the company. Its policy design. Pretty smart of you, to bad you got found out. Why dont you also ask a top Univerity to give you a PHD degree immediately, because you say so. Number 2: I researched this company for the first 6 months I was here. Sneaky things agents will do to cheat, lie and steal from their clients. I know you might not understand this but some people are willing to pay for service. We have clauses because we are an organization that is growing and attracts a lot of different kinds of people, good ones and bad ones. Primerica is one of its biggest ones. James, How do you help someone with debt, you only do life? Remember before you answer your an independent contractor with PFS, not an employee. You would be good with all those crooks up there, stealing the money from the people. My Dad died in Jan 2006, Primerica paid his claim in March. If your client does you will lose him on the first drop of price. And Again I throw my challenge down. Im a single, 26-year old guy, and I honestly dont know that many families that fit that bill. You were under a system of RVPs who trained horribly wrong and didnt do crap for themselves either. When it comes to value, I rather not have some person who is looking for a sale to contradict the competent advisers that have no interests in making a commission off me. Please read Suze Orman, and any competent adviser. Yes I am talking about the ARM and the mortgage mess again. The subject of Primerica may be a contentious one, but certainly no one who looks at it with a degree of objectivity and intelligence would admit when all is said and done that Primerica is a scam. Cash valve does not belong to the client; it belongs to the insurance company. Might need to check that out. Its about pushing their own product period. Its the products or services that I do not like. Everyone has a right to declare their freedom from captitivity (especially if they are part-time) So PFS agents heres a homework assignment. So regarding the comments I made about most money being made from recruiting people I was told by other reps that I wouldnt make any decent money if I didnt recruit people. Im not sure why you are wasting your time worrying about what Primerica does. However, this does NOT include the securities license! Do you think having a plan getting out of debt is something every family should have? And if people are happy with what happened to them, they are bound to recommend these services to their friends. But then again his real name is not Michael but Thomas. The bank who doesnt care about me or the person who is willing to come to my home on weekend. I had to say i was giving her what we (PFS) could offer. This is basic business teaching. This was an illustration to how expensive Primericas policies are, that a ROP can beat them on price (and features). I may be a pain in the rear and you only wnat the lay down clients, but then again you do not sell value, you sell price. As for the Ratings and credibility, it is always nice to hear how bad they are doing, since I have stock in Citi. I do not think so since you sell on price alone. I rather get my insurance based on 100 people, than off me. Since this is the second or third time I brought it up, it must be since you are ignoring it. IF you had you would have known what they do. Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. I am your worse nightmare, someone who knows equal to if not more than you do. Tom this was goin a bit too far. . It is something to think about. 4. It seems you and the rest of the bozos here seem to think that price is the only factor. Having to worry if they are doing it right and not having to go back to the client with your mistakes. ROP is an option. Name a company that only has to pay their sales force when they only make a sale? State Farm offered a part time opportunity to agents? Again these are your opinions. Could this be another deception? He talks about driving a BMW when he wishes he had a Yugo while riding on public transportation. Just like your posts about what Primerica does, you do not have accurate and up to date information. Term4Sale is owned by COMPULIFE Software, Inc. which sells term comparison software to thousands of life agents throughout the U.S. and Canada. Anyone can use it, even someone who does not hold a license. Try Suze Ornam. . I want to expose all those other criminals selling whole life and keeping peoples money instead of to them like it should be. I have no quotas to meet. They come out and answer questions as needed on items they are not making money. Well wake up and see that your not only doing an injustice by blindly leading these client sheep of yours to the slaughter house, but to say its in the name of doing whats best for clients; seriously; go study, pass exams that qualify you to actually financially advise, which is not the 6 or 63 or life, health, ltc, and do us all a favor and use some self due diligence and educate yourself first before you just try and sell stories and common sense catch phrases that sound so ammature and weak. . People are living longer and expected to have longer life spans. Notwithstanding the basis for termination in Section 10 of your Basic Agreement, this Agreement may be terminated by either party with or without any reason or cause. Now that this has happened, the Office manager understands quality. In the example they showed (I am not sure if it was the average Americans financial situation) they refinanced the customers mortgage and switched them from a cash value life insurance policy to a term policy freeing up $500 a month. How can that be if they only offfer what they have to offer? See what it says about Primerica. Not a soul. with Prepaid Legal directly. If I was Micahels or James Clients, I would not walk but run and pull all my files from them. What Michael says and sells, and what Primerica sells. $0 in your account for the first 1 to 7 years. I am curious, do you say the same thing to your clients with a straight face. Sure do, join with me and I will train you. Matter of fact, most advisers that are not really cash value salespeople, ever really go after the middle american family. Its all rah, rah, hype emotional stuff. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Let me explain. So let us see, Yours is cheaper, but to use the features it cost me money. they say it is usually spray painted green. So you understand cost per 1000 and how it pertains to the amount of coverage you can purchase right? I am glad you are a well-informed CLIENT. Most of the agents I work with look for Quality clients. I teach my sales staff to focus on the value. They are sold on the concept of Buy term And Invest The Difference. When you can help people get debt free faster, and get to their goals faster? As for options: Offering some crap for food as an option is disgusting. These policies provide a level premium for a specified period. The agreement stopped short of requiring Citigroup to repurchase the $12 billion worth of auction-rate securities sold to institutional investors and does not require that such investors be compensated for any damages sustained if they sold such securities. I am glad you say that. How mnay people looking for some part-time income can afford to pay that out? Primerica has been around for 31 years. Contact ****In my opinion the company has a target for agents, which is green people who dont know much and does not have access to professionals. PFS Investments Inc. (PFSI) is an SEC Registered Investment Adviser DBA Primerica Advisors. Nope it is a sales person cal;ling to try to convert you to CASH VALUE. If you were I would run not walk away and change everything you said. I guess that is something you do not understand. You will always be searching for your next victim. You must think everyone is an idiot. If I place the client with the right carrier and concentrate on providing a solution to a need its not an issue. Williams was sold once before and stock went through the roof. ALSO: The Adjustable Rate Mortgage, the no proof loans, and the three to four payment loans, we all the rage a couple years ago. They have no way of making you accountable for your words. Yes you might have been but it has been almost a decade. One question, Since Mutual funds make more money, and are safer than insurance companies money, why would you place your money in a losing position. Look, no one person can run a succesfull business by themselves. Does he have lawsuits that prove this? How many companies do you need to sell for, to do the right thing the FIRST time. I guess that big compensation check is need for the thousands of dollars you need to just be in business. But then you have proven you are not looking at the most commissions you can make. But that is why the company covers you. You have said there are companies, show tell us which ones do? This is something that every competent adviser has said to stay away from, but James said it is a great thing. You said: And at PFS they actually think $100k is a lot of money. They have done several different loans. *****Perfect example a former co-worker of mine who wrecked his motor cycle coming in to work . 3)A big attraction to Primerica for clients and reps is that it gives it clients and reps access to high yielding emergency fund accounts and investment grade vehicles for as little as $25/month making it theoretically possible for anyone to invest regardless of their economic situation. No tax benefits. People can search the internet for information now. Since youre new and un-licensed in the financial services world, you upline will help you call on your friends and family; but if sales are made, who gets the money? I work at a restaurant right now, and the money is good, while going to school. @James: You in general basically said Primerica must be MLM in all its glory b/c its massively recruiting. How about health insurance? Most of their friends are not married no kids, and have no need for the products except mutual funds. 5. As independent As for Errors and Omissions insurance, that is something independent brokers need, not captive agents need. . Your way is you are always looking out yourself. Can you tell the difference between a good term and a bad term policy? Yes I had to do whats right. In the real world, you get success for working hard at what ever you do. The reason why I am responding to you is that I keep getting alerts when more posts are up and I cant help but read. This is one of the reasons why they are no value term. And truth be told, if they dont do it here, then they probably wont do it anywhere else either. So does a person really need 500k in life insurance at age 65 probably not I just did not want to change the numbers. . Life insurance is not supposed to be used for health issues, but replacing the income. He is more concerned about defending Primerica, than helping the client. That means there is less money for the client. authorize Primerica Life or the agent who is charged with these amounts, acting as your attomey-in-fact, to confess judgment on your behalf. Did you know that Primerica had no problem with people with P adn C licenses to sell other companies, when they dropped P and C. Because it was not the same license. Who wons their producers and clients. Hes says hes an educated consumer, so show us why would he choose Primerica life over AIG, Banner, West Coast Life or other term carriers that have: a) higher ratings than PFS Do you not have an income-earning opportunity to offer? 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